In Mahmoud Saad's episode of on the 30th of March, he spoke with veteran activist and journalist Hussam El-Hamalawy concerning the summons that Hussam had received to appear before the military prosecutor, along with news media host Reem Maged, to answer questions about statements he made regarding violations committed by the Egyptian Military Police which involved physical and verbal abuse and torture of civilian detainees.

Near the end of the telephone conversation, Hussam mentioned that the military, as a state institution, is accountable since it receives funds from the state's budget. Mahmoud Saad responded aggressively to this statement and ranted on, after the end of the conversation, about the independence of the military as an institution.

I strongly disagreed with this statement and so recorded this response. Be aware: my tone of voice for two thirds of the podcast reflect the amount of anger, astonishment and dismay I felt at Mr. Saad's statements.

Podcast is in Arabic.